Christian artist Phil Wickham has some big dreams, which he shared in a recent interview with New Zealand video creator Fraser Grut, best known for his 10,000 Dreams segments on Instagram. In this short clip, Wickham unpacks his wildest life dreams, starting off by humbly stating that he wants to grow old with his wife and admire the work God allowed the couple to do.
“I would love to live a life where I’m, like, 80 years old next to my 77-year-old wife on the porch in a rocking chair blown away by all that God allowed us to do,” Wickham says, “Still in love, with children that are healthy and grandchildren that are healthy.
And that are all pursuing a life of grace and love and mercy, that hopefully, we help lead them into.”The couple, who reside in San Diego, CA, will be married for 16 years in November. Their tight-knit family of six includes Phil, his wife, Mallory, three daughters, Penelope, Mabel, Lottie, and son Henry. Wickham’s wife and children occasionally have the opportunity to go on tour with him to watch him perform.
Wickham has an emotional moment where he imagines a future where his wife and kids, those he considers closest to him, talk about how he is more than what he says he is on stage while at home.“I’m kind of crying right now because I know how much better I could be at it. I just wanna be a person that my family, my kids, they see me on Instagram, and they see me on stage…yeah, that’s cool, but then they see me in our tough time at home or frustrating time, and they see me acting out of love and patience and being the person I’m talking about on stage.”
He says his dream is to just be a good guy. He acknowledges all the other awesome blessings in life his fame could bring, like playing on Saturday Night Live and Superbowl Halftime shows. He even jokes about his dream to dunk one day but laughs at the fact that he would probably need surgery to be physically capable of that.“There’s a million dreams out there, but when I have to distill it down to, like, what do I really want? I want to practice what I preach. And [I want] the people that are around me to say, yeah he did that. …and for my wife to say ‘yeah he’s exactly what he says he is on stage.’”